David LaChapelle was the High Priest of celebrity photography for almost two decades. So why has he turned his back on fame and fashion to explore death, disaster and the end of times?
Words Jake Hamilton Photography David LaChapelle
If you show anyone interested in photography a picture of your work, they will immediately say ‘LaChapelle’. Why are you so distinctive?
Because I didn’t think about it too much. I went intuitively. I blew up colour at the same time grunge took over; all this black and white, people looking depressed, whereas I just exploded with colour. I loved grunge, but I just wanted to be different. Sometimes I wanted to be funny and put celebrities in strange situations; other times there was something inside my head that I wanted to put in my work.
You only show in galleries now. The Raft is currently exhibiting in Hong Kong, but is there a direct link between this and your earlier work, Deluge?
Yes, The Raft is chapter two in the narrative. It’s an idea from Deluge, the apocalypse of the future, but only in a metaphorical sense, a sort of feeling of the end, that we’re all going to suffer.
Deluge is inspired by Michelangelo’s The Flood, And The Raft clearly echoes Géricault’s The Raft of the Medusa. But I also hear there’s a third installment you’re working on called Paradise Regained. What is that inspired by?
Well, in Deluge the people are quite clearly helping each other. The Raft represents the journey of the storm before these people cobble together a raft to refuge themselves from the deluge, but in a very simple narrative; it’s like a storybook narrative. I thought of Géricault and tried consciously not to do an obvious take on that, but the connotations are there. My raft is much more of a storm. In Paradise Regained you’ll see some of the same people reaching enlightenment – but that’s just in my head. People will interpret it their own way. I’ve shot a bunch for that series, but I’ve yet to work on it.
Your photography is saturated with colour and surrealistic humour, but you’re becoming increasingly apocalyptic as you get older…
Well, ‘the raft’ was a terrible true event that turned into a nightmare. They cut these people from the boat, the lower classes, the sailors and slaves, to perish without provisions, and they resorted to cannibalism and all kinds of horrible things. It was a specific incident. The Raft is not referring to that. It’s about the struggle with the storms in all our lives. We have to suffer. Life is suffering. But through suffering one can gain enlightenment.
I heard you were initially against exhibiting in a gallery. Is it true you once said: “Nobody wants to see me, they want to see Britney Spears”?
Well, before I started my career in photography in the 1980s I showed in galleries. Are you aware of that?
Yes. Your first boss was Andy Warhol.
No, even prior to Andy, who gave me my first job for Interview magazine, I was showing in galleries. I was using a darkroom with a girl who had this beautiful loft on Park Avenue which I rented; she was from a well-to-do family. My first show was in 1984 called Good News for Modern Man [at 303, New York] and then I did another immediately after called Angels, Saints and Martyrs. We were so naïve back then. We don’t know you had to wait a year to show again. We just did it. So around 1984 I was invited to work for Interview. I was selling photographs, all black and white, for $300 or $400 a time, and I was trying to make a living while I was still living in a squat on the Lower East Side.
Is it true that you started shooting in colour at exactly the same time you discovered you didn’t have HIV?
Yes, but that’s not 100 percent accurate.
But you did burst into colour when you realised you didn’t have AIDS?
I was doing colour already, but I was painting on the negatives with these very vibrant colours in the darkroom. It was before Photoshop. A lot of people were dying of AIDS. I was questioning ideas of whether there was life after death. I really felt there was something after death; I really do believe that. I was diagnosed negative but I waited a very long time to get tested because I was certain I was positive.
Why were you certain?
Because my first boyfriend died of AIDS in 1984. I was 21 and he was 24. We were living together for more than two years already and he died very quickly. He was a dancer, very healthy, and in a matter of weeks he was… dead.
Literally. I was shocked. I just thought that I had to be positive too, because it was before the term ‘safe sex’ or the promotion of condoms. But we didn’t know anything in those early days of 1982, 1983. We knew nothing. We didn’t care about it. I just assumed I was going to die too. It weighed very, very heavily on me and affected my early years, though I did always work very hard because I wanted to leave something behind, my work, you know? I didn’t think I would live that long. But finally, through Act Up and reading medical journals, well, the doctors back then didn’t know anything either, so I refused to get tested for many years because the medicine was more caustic. I went holistic and vegan, running six miles a day, but every cough or bruise I got I just thought, that’s it, you’re positive. Anyway, there was no question in my mind I was positive.
What made you finally get tested?
I was in a relationship, and I wanted to know. I was in Cuba and didn’t feel well and thought I was definitely positive then. It was just causing me a lot of problems. I should just know once and for all. And when the results came back I asked to get re-tested because I didn’t believe it. Do it again! But it was a weight off my shoulders. Suddenly my levity lifted and my pictures became very funny. I started employing beauty.
You had no formal training at all, so where on earth did you find your eye? And where did you find your concepts?
Well, actually, I left school at 15. I was bullied and hassled because I was wearing strange clothes. I didn’t want to be normal. I didn’t want to fit in. I wanted to be different. I was always drawing at the back of class. All my life I wanted to be an artist. I still have some of those early drawings and they really changed my life. I moved to New York when I was 15; then at 17 my father came and got me. I loved my parents, they were great, but I was having problems in my own life. It was truancy for two years, basically. Then I got into this incredible art school programme with these amazingly engaging teachers and in the second semester we did photography. I just knew then I loved photography. So I did have some training, but I always did what I wanted. I thought photography was going to be very mathematical but I learned it was like the eye, the way you see.
Did you have a strict Catholic upbringing?
No, I wouldn’t say strict. I was the third child, the baby. My brother and sister had a stricter upbringing. I was murder compared to them!
How bad were you?
I was pretty wild as a kid. I loved nightclubs since I was 14. I sneaked out the house every night to dance. Every single night. Just dancing! I loved disco music. Then later New Wave in New York. I loved the creative club scene in New York. The art world and the club scene were very tightly connected back then. Keith Haring was working the door in the Mud Club. It was incredible! East Village was the place to be. Nowadays it’s very commercial, the club scene. But I’m not looking for clubs anymore [laughs].
New York was pretty decadent back then.
That depends on how you define decadent. I find it more decadent today. Uptown and Downtown had a very hard division back then. We never went Uptown at all. I thought Downtown was completely creative. Of course people were having sex and things like that, but it was free; it wasn’t the Uptown money explosion. I was shooting society weddings to survive back then. These really crazy weddings.
Vera Wang. She had an extravagant wedding and I was hired to shoot these beautiful black and white images for her. I could survive for a year off one of those society weddings.
May I ask, when you shoot celebrities in these hyper-surreal situations, do you enjoy it thoroughly, or do you anguish and bleed?
Look at me, I’ve just shot all weekend, hear how hoarse my voice is! Three days solid! But to answer your question, I would say… I’ve done it both ways [hoarse laughter]. As I‘ve gotten older I’m less influenced by outside pressure, by that I mean really obnoxious publicists. Hollywood can be very nasty. It can be a terrible experience. It’s not the celebrity, it’s usually the people around the celebrity. Of course that can be indicative of the kind of person they actually are, but sometimes they honestly don’t know how to face the people who are close to them. I know that scene, for sure. It was tough and brutal, but we’d always laugh and have lots fun, yet it was still a crazy difficult time. That went on for a while and then I quit magazines for good in 2006. Now I only show in galleries.
But how crazy did it get?
I had so much energy. I’m really healthy now but back then I had tons of energy. But I loved it. When La Chapelle Land [David’s acclaimed book] started happening it was a dream come true, but then later on, when it really blew up, it kind of… changed things. By the time of Heaven To Hell, and then my film Rize, and also the big fashion retrospectives and anthologies [Artists and Prostitutes], well, that all happened at once around 2006...
...and you didn’t want to do it anymore.
I really didn’t want to do it. I loved photography but I didn’t want to shoot the next Britney Spears. In fashion, it was such a paradox, because as I was getting older I was making commentaries within my photography. I was doing these intense layers.